Match expectations on the canals
Posted: January 26th, 2012, 1:15 pm
MrV set me thinking with his report of his 'grueller' on the T&M last weekend...........
Have our expectations of winning weights risen too high in recent years? If so, why?
Or are we 'correct' to expect double figures on our canal matches? Is it just me 'out of step'?
I've pulled back the Cashmores canal results over the last 30 years (all the canal results I can lay my hands on) and they do make quite interesting reading.
In fact there's a few stats that surprised me
Do you realise that out of the last 15 canal matches my winning weight of 4 - 15- 10 taken at Penkridge last year, just 6 drams short of a level 5lb was the only winning weight lower than 5lb from those 15 matches.......
Even more startling I find is out of the last 27 canal matches there have only been 4 matches with a sub 5lb winning weight - amazed me that did.
Anyway - here's the summary of our cut results for you to peruse at your leisure.....
DATE VENUE WINNER WEIGHT
18/10/80 Blackpole Canal V J Priest 365 grammes
10/07/82 Staffs Worcs Canal G Brookes 01.07.05
17/08/85 Caunsell Canal Roy Hill 01.07.00
14/09/85 B'ham & Worcs Canal Barry Kenn 00.13.10
20/06/87 Caunshill Canal Geoff Cashmore 01.03.05
17/10/87 Stourport Canal Joe Penn 00.15.10
29/10/94 BOTTERHAM LOCK (SW CANAL) PHIL EDGE 03.09.04
16/09/95 BHAM CANAL HANBURY MARK STANAWAY 05.06.10
02/11/96 TRENT & MERSEY SHUGBOROUGH TONY KULIK 10.09.06
16/11/96 STAFFS WORCS - CROSS KEYS TONY KULIK 02.14.04
08/03/97 STAFFS WORCS CANAL PAUL MILLWARD 04.01.12
18/10/97 TRENT & MERSEY SHUGBOROUGH PAUL MILLWARD 03.02.00
07/03/98 STAFFS WORCS CANAL WOLVERLEY TONY KULIK 05.11.09
19/09/98 TRENT & MERSEY CANAL RUGELEY TONY COOPER 03.07.12
17/10/98 STAFFS WORCS CANAL AWBRIDGE RICHARD CASHMORE 04.00.00
31/10/98 BHAM FAZELEY CANAL DRAYTON TONY KULIK 00.14.15
06/03/99 STAFFS WORCS - HANBURY WHARF TONY KULIK 03.12.14
02/10/99 STAFFS WORCS - RODBASTON PETE MABBOTT 01.11.00
30/10/99 TRENT & MERSEY HANDSACRE TONY KULIK 02.12.00
13/11/99 STAFFS WORCS - AWBRIDGE KEITH PAGE 01.08.14
04/03/00 BHAM FAZELEY - BODYMOOR HEATH KEITH PAGE 00.13.06
01/07/00 WYRLEY & ESSINGTON - PELSALL GEZ FRANCE 04.05.06
28/10/00 STAFFS WORCS HINKSFORD 38-39 ROY COTTERELL 01.08.09
11/11/00 TRENT & MERSEY GUNPOWDER BRIDGE MARK STANAWAY 00.06.02
03/11/01 Fradley Canal Pete Mabbott 01.07.10
18/05/02 Wyrley & Essington Canal Pelsall Roy Cotterell 11.05.00
01/03/03 Staffs Worcs Canal - Rodbaston Tony Kulik 02.00.00
12/04/03 Wyrley & Essington Canal - Pelsall Mark Stanaway 02.13.07
17/04/04 Shropshire Union Canal - Little Onn Martin Kendall 10.01.00
09/10/04 Cannock Extension Canal Robert Dougliss 06.07.00
23/10/04 Shropshire Union Canal - Cowley John Rowland 02.00.00
12/03/05 Trent & Mersey Canal Gt Haywood Steve Mellor 01.13.15
09/04/05 Staffs Worcs Canal Walton Mark Stanaway 00.08.06
08/10/05 Staffs Worcs Canal Calf Heath Dennis Jeffery 04.01.05
22/10/05 Shropshire Union Canal Little Onn Ray Phipps 02.07.00
08/04/06 Trent & Mersey Canal Armitage Richard Cashmore 05.14.04
07/10/06 Shropshire Union Canal Cowley Mark Stanaway 06.09.00
03/03/07 Wyrley & Essington Canal - Pelsall Paul Vernon 06.04.05
17/03/07 Trent & Mersey Canal - Armitage Paul Wedge 12.00.00
31/03/07 Staffs Worcs Canal - Greengore Lane Paul Vernon 03.06.04
14/04/07 Shropshire Union Canal - Little Onn Mark Stanaway 06.00.00
21/07/07 Wyrley & Essington Canal - Pelsall Geoff Cashmore 08.12.00
15/03/08 Trent & Mersey Canal Armitage Dennis Jeffery 08.12.00
29/03/08 Wyrley & Essington Canal - Common Gez France 02.06.13
26/04/08 Wyrley & Essington Canal - Wood Lane Paul Jeffery 09.04.00
06/09/08 Cannock Extension Canal Dennis Jeffery 06.00.02
04/10/10 Cannock Extension Canal Phil Broadstock 02.05.10
14/03/09 Cannock Extension Canal Dennis Jeffery 05.13.04
16/05/09 Wyrley & Essington Canal - Wood Lane Tony Kulik 10.14.03
25/07/09 Wyrley & Essington Canal - Wood Lane/Common Andy Spruce 15.15.14
08/08/09 Wyrley & Essington Canal - Fishley Dave Meredith 07.08.08
19/09/09 Staffs Worcs Canal - Cross Keys Penkridge Barry Astbury 07.05.04
03/10/09 Wyrley & Essington Canal - Fishley Ray Phipps 06.12.08
27/03/10 Staffs Worcs Canal - Roadside Penkridge Paul Jeffery 10.00.00
10/04/10 Staffs Worcs Canal - Green Sheds Penkridge Roy Cotterell 07.03.08
22/05/10 Wyrley & Essington Canal - Fishley/Wood Lane Ray Phipps 25.00.14
19/06/10 Wyrley & Essington Canal - Pelsall Common Geoff Cashmore 18.01.03
02/10/10 Trent & Mersey Canal - Handsacre Paul Vernon 09.00.00
05/03/11 Staffs Worcs Canal - Green Sheds Penkridge Tony Kulik 04.15.10
19/03/11 Staffs Worcs Canal - Awbridge Paul Jeffery 11.10.00
30/04/11 Wyrley & Essington Canal - Wood Lane Dennis Jeffery 05.06.06
03/09/11 Cannock Extension Canal Paul Jeffery 13.04.00
Reminds me - gotta keep a close eye on that Team Jeffery - looks like they are the current form cut cracks
Have our expectations of winning weights risen too high in recent years? If so, why?
Or are we 'correct' to expect double figures on our canal matches? Is it just me 'out of step'?
I've pulled back the Cashmores canal results over the last 30 years (all the canal results I can lay my hands on) and they do make quite interesting reading.
In fact there's a few stats that surprised me
Do you realise that out of the last 15 canal matches my winning weight of 4 - 15- 10 taken at Penkridge last year, just 6 drams short of a level 5lb was the only winning weight lower than 5lb from those 15 matches.......
Even more startling I find is out of the last 27 canal matches there have only been 4 matches with a sub 5lb winning weight - amazed me that did.
Anyway - here's the summary of our cut results for you to peruse at your leisure.....
DATE VENUE WINNER WEIGHT
18/10/80 Blackpole Canal V J Priest 365 grammes
10/07/82 Staffs Worcs Canal G Brookes 01.07.05
17/08/85 Caunsell Canal Roy Hill 01.07.00
14/09/85 B'ham & Worcs Canal Barry Kenn 00.13.10
20/06/87 Caunshill Canal Geoff Cashmore 01.03.05
17/10/87 Stourport Canal Joe Penn 00.15.10
29/10/94 BOTTERHAM LOCK (SW CANAL) PHIL EDGE 03.09.04
16/09/95 BHAM CANAL HANBURY MARK STANAWAY 05.06.10
02/11/96 TRENT & MERSEY SHUGBOROUGH TONY KULIK 10.09.06
16/11/96 STAFFS WORCS - CROSS KEYS TONY KULIK 02.14.04
08/03/97 STAFFS WORCS CANAL PAUL MILLWARD 04.01.12
18/10/97 TRENT & MERSEY SHUGBOROUGH PAUL MILLWARD 03.02.00
07/03/98 STAFFS WORCS CANAL WOLVERLEY TONY KULIK 05.11.09
19/09/98 TRENT & MERSEY CANAL RUGELEY TONY COOPER 03.07.12
17/10/98 STAFFS WORCS CANAL AWBRIDGE RICHARD CASHMORE 04.00.00
31/10/98 BHAM FAZELEY CANAL DRAYTON TONY KULIK 00.14.15
06/03/99 STAFFS WORCS - HANBURY WHARF TONY KULIK 03.12.14
02/10/99 STAFFS WORCS - RODBASTON PETE MABBOTT 01.11.00
30/10/99 TRENT & MERSEY HANDSACRE TONY KULIK 02.12.00
13/11/99 STAFFS WORCS - AWBRIDGE KEITH PAGE 01.08.14
04/03/00 BHAM FAZELEY - BODYMOOR HEATH KEITH PAGE 00.13.06
01/07/00 WYRLEY & ESSINGTON - PELSALL GEZ FRANCE 04.05.06
28/10/00 STAFFS WORCS HINKSFORD 38-39 ROY COTTERELL 01.08.09
11/11/00 TRENT & MERSEY GUNPOWDER BRIDGE MARK STANAWAY 00.06.02
03/11/01 Fradley Canal Pete Mabbott 01.07.10
18/05/02 Wyrley & Essington Canal Pelsall Roy Cotterell 11.05.00
01/03/03 Staffs Worcs Canal - Rodbaston Tony Kulik 02.00.00
12/04/03 Wyrley & Essington Canal - Pelsall Mark Stanaway 02.13.07
17/04/04 Shropshire Union Canal - Little Onn Martin Kendall 10.01.00
09/10/04 Cannock Extension Canal Robert Dougliss 06.07.00
23/10/04 Shropshire Union Canal - Cowley John Rowland 02.00.00
12/03/05 Trent & Mersey Canal Gt Haywood Steve Mellor 01.13.15
09/04/05 Staffs Worcs Canal Walton Mark Stanaway 00.08.06
08/10/05 Staffs Worcs Canal Calf Heath Dennis Jeffery 04.01.05
22/10/05 Shropshire Union Canal Little Onn Ray Phipps 02.07.00
08/04/06 Trent & Mersey Canal Armitage Richard Cashmore 05.14.04
07/10/06 Shropshire Union Canal Cowley Mark Stanaway 06.09.00
03/03/07 Wyrley & Essington Canal - Pelsall Paul Vernon 06.04.05
17/03/07 Trent & Mersey Canal - Armitage Paul Wedge 12.00.00
31/03/07 Staffs Worcs Canal - Greengore Lane Paul Vernon 03.06.04
14/04/07 Shropshire Union Canal - Little Onn Mark Stanaway 06.00.00
21/07/07 Wyrley & Essington Canal - Pelsall Geoff Cashmore 08.12.00
15/03/08 Trent & Mersey Canal Armitage Dennis Jeffery 08.12.00
29/03/08 Wyrley & Essington Canal - Common Gez France 02.06.13
26/04/08 Wyrley & Essington Canal - Wood Lane Paul Jeffery 09.04.00
06/09/08 Cannock Extension Canal Dennis Jeffery 06.00.02
04/10/10 Cannock Extension Canal Phil Broadstock 02.05.10
14/03/09 Cannock Extension Canal Dennis Jeffery 05.13.04
16/05/09 Wyrley & Essington Canal - Wood Lane Tony Kulik 10.14.03
25/07/09 Wyrley & Essington Canal - Wood Lane/Common Andy Spruce 15.15.14
08/08/09 Wyrley & Essington Canal - Fishley Dave Meredith 07.08.08
19/09/09 Staffs Worcs Canal - Cross Keys Penkridge Barry Astbury 07.05.04
03/10/09 Wyrley & Essington Canal - Fishley Ray Phipps 06.12.08
27/03/10 Staffs Worcs Canal - Roadside Penkridge Paul Jeffery 10.00.00
10/04/10 Staffs Worcs Canal - Green Sheds Penkridge Roy Cotterell 07.03.08
22/05/10 Wyrley & Essington Canal - Fishley/Wood Lane Ray Phipps 25.00.14
19/06/10 Wyrley & Essington Canal - Pelsall Common Geoff Cashmore 18.01.03
02/10/10 Trent & Mersey Canal - Handsacre Paul Vernon 09.00.00
05/03/11 Staffs Worcs Canal - Green Sheds Penkridge Tony Kulik 04.15.10
19/03/11 Staffs Worcs Canal - Awbridge Paul Jeffery 11.10.00
30/04/11 Wyrley & Essington Canal - Wood Lane Dennis Jeffery 05.06.06
03/09/11 Cannock Extension Canal Paul Jeffery 13.04.00
Reminds me - gotta keep a close eye on that Team Jeffery - looks like they are the current form cut cracks