Barbed vs Barbless

[NoCarpPlease]

to avoid conflicting with the team fishing poll - I'd really appreciate your thoughts on this thread please.

My perception is that the majority of anglers fishing natural venue matches still use micro-barbed hooks - I know that I do in most circumstances, and most "recommendations" on web forums or magazines seem to be barbed patterns.

Is my perception correct or not?

For info my hook portfolio is
B512 (24)
b560 (16-20)
Drennan fine match (18-22)
Drennan super carbon maggot (18-24)
Tubertini series 2 (bronzato and opaco) (16-22)
Kamasan b611 (16-22)
Drennan Carbon feeder (16-22)
Kammy Animal eyed (14, 16)
forged crystal size 12 for choppy
original 90340 (only barbless pattern I use) (20,22)

No need for long justifications or reasoning if you don't want to - I'm mainly trying to find out if I've got blinkers on!!

thanks in advance

[joffmiester]

nothing wrong with that group of hooks i do like the sensas 3530 for B/J and IM1s for bread fishing and gamma green hooks also for B/j doesn't burst the joker or bloodworm when you reverse hook them

[Dodge]

I could do with some more original IM1s in size 22s down to my last 2 packets

[joffmiester]

plenty of 24s dodge

[Arch]

Read somewhere that a barbless hook will twist in the fishes mouth, causing more damage that a barbed hook. More so big fish hooks.


B511,
B611
Wiskerbarb,
Green Gamma,
Au lion d'or for Joker.

Then some sort of meat hook for the "dark side"

All barbed. Where allowed.

[Dodge]

plenty of 24s dodge

22s i need joff 24s are too small mate

[preecy]

plenty of 24s dodge

Ebay dodge got some on there the other week 

22s i need joff  24s are too small mate 

eBay dodge got some off there the other week

[Dodge]

eBay dodge got some off there the other week

Cheers Si

[Pedro]

Whisker/ micro barbed in smaller sizes down to 8's

Barbless for owt below that!!

[CHOPWORM HERO]

Is it me or are the more recent IM1's more brittle !! I know I can be a bit heavy handed but I have broke a lot of these this year. They have now been regulated to scratching days as they still are the sharpest around !!!
My other hooks are :
drennan polemaster 16,18,20 for hemp (just bronze version of B511).
B511 16,18,20 for bread and hemp if not spooky !!
B611 12,14 worm (mainly canal).
B711 11,13,15,17 worm.
B510 20, 22. float maggot, winter.
B520 18,20, 22. maggot summer/ winter, mainly feeder for roach, chub.
drennan wide gape power 10,12,18,20 mainly for eels lob tails and maggots.
drennan specimen barbel eyed for barbel fishing !!! 10,12,14's for hair rigging.
green gama's 20's, drennan polemaster 22's, im1's 20,22,24's and B590's 18,20,22,24's for squatt/blood/pinkie work
As You can see from the list I have a few patterns and it would have been more if I had included my darkside collection !!!!!! ( Don't tend to use em anymore !)

[Dodge]

All my barbless darkside hooks are rusty as f u c k in a magnetic box which hasnt been opened for 18 months 


The Sensas 3530 must be the most widely used small fish hook on the canal circuit right now for those that use wriggley baits

IM1s in the red and blue packet are niche !   

[bill yards]

Is it me or are the more recent IM1's more brittle !!

I think this has cropped up before and I spoke to Polly about it. He said they are made to the exact same spec as the originals but I suppose you will get some batches of any hook slightly better or worse.

The 26s are actually stronger than the 22s, same thickness of wire but a little less of it, - that's my reckoning anyhows.

[CHOPWORM HERO]

Nice one Bill

[Mark_Roberson]

B511 Bread fantastic hook also hemp
3530 great small fish hook
drennan super carbon mag bigger fish 

[chavey]

Just for Dodge

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ORIGINAL-IMAG ... 1c2dcfd3ed

[CHOPWORM HERO]

Do You use em Rich ?
Have You had the same trouble with em breakin ?
By the way just bought some of that site ! Thanks
May be it's me not being delicate enough !! I put that down to river fishing !!!

[Dodge]

Just for Dodge

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ORIGINAL-IMAG ... 1c2dcfd3ed

Thanks Rich

Using them has improved my results winter bread fishing since you put me onto them 3 years ago or so mate .

[Dodge]

Have You had the same trouble with em breakin ?

I think the breaking issue is more to do with perch and there boney mouths etc rich.

Delicate bread fishing for small silvers and skimmers ive had no issues whatsoever except from them being so sharp and hooking my fingers !!!!!

[joffmiester]

26s

[NoCarpPlease]

shark hooks - I've got a packet of im1's in a 28!!

I think - the turquoise packs are the original ..... the orange ones are from after the takeover by Future.


From answers so far .... it looks like my perception is right - that we still mainly used barbed hooks.
FWIW .... KA lambasted me on another forum for using them .... but then he always was an opinionated so & so.

River match cancelled today - so I'm catching up on jobs at home - have to help out at the in-laws tomorrow so no fishing til next weekend :(