joffs summer sensas league 1st round

joffmiester · #21

H.M.S will not allow it lee i still have 4 years hanging over my head

#22

Why?......have H.M.S got anything to do with Cudmore?

#23

Hang in there Joff

you love it really.....what goes around comes around

If all else fails.......... Yepp, resort to violence

If you need any Manchester Muscle .......... " Big Dave" will help you out

ropa · #24

Joff sign the woodmouse on!!

But don`t invite him to team meetings, too much gob on him

Just looked through some old results and noticed the Trentman team that won the div 3 national on the Trent in 2003, not 1 of that line up fishes for them now!! Or do they?? How many of your team 5 years ago fishes for your team now?? In ours of 2003 we have 10 left and 8 new lads, and 5 have left in that time, but none have gone to another team!!

joffmiester · #25

to fair this is the first person out of the old school that has left and i'm really gutted about it he never let you down and always dug a result out the first i heard was on saturday a phone call from lakeview

just happens to be the trenchman new HQ

every dog has his day and what goes round comes round

you never know what might happen

#26

About about this for an interesting thought Toff.....

What do you think if ALL match organisers that fish for teams like yourself, myself, Ted Yearby etc etc started banning sides that continually steal their anglers....

ropa · #27

Unforunately it`s the way things go

, Lee, Joff have you never been guilty of it in the past

, the reason it`s a yellow stream these days it`s because it`s harder to replace these anglers for a number of reasons. There is definately not the amount of all round ,experienced anglers about.......commercials? not enough young blood coming into the sport?? lack of interest from good anglers in team fishing?? Many reasons but I mself know it doesn`t get any easier when you loose a lad to another team

joffmiester · #28

as one of a dying breed match organiser i will be running matches like lee has teams of three that keeps it simple most anglers i talk to say they have no chance against the big teams so the answer to me is simple don't run big team matches i've just been speaking to stan piecha about this even the summer league teams of 6 can't put a team sheet of 10 anglers as its a must win at all costs policy[fair play we all want to win] but the lesser teams have all ready questioned me on this so this happens what ever the size of team but its more noticeable at the bigger end of team fishing i think teams of ten will struggle to keep leagues going soon
now teams of three brings it down to a more even playing field most teams have 6 or 7 anglers that are better than others but when it comes to ten thats when problems start
a team of three can travel together in van if need be a team of three can just be 3 friends wanting to fish at this level don't get me wrong there would be some very good teams of three but remember the more teams you have in it the bigger the sections are and you would be very lucky to have 3 anglers on really good pegs
bye the way ropas barnsley are head hunting one or two anglers as we speak

#29

Its called "Ever Decreasing Circles"

I wonder how many teams will still be competing at the top level in 2 or 3 years ????

I just cant see a future for 10 man team events apart from nationals..... i hope i am wrong !!

Great point about teams of 3 and 5 Joff

Its much easier and cost effective when you travel in small groups in vans etc .......and for sure i think it is a much more level playing field in these team events ............. the best team that has fished the best match/series will still win, superstars or not

joffmiester · #30

dodge i think if myself lee bob dyer and a couple of other organisers got together we could do something between us i know your not in the midlands but if we kept a league in the midlands and the teams at 4 we would have endless venues to choose from and keep it with in 50 mlies of each other but i do think it would have to be on sundays as the climate we are living in now more and more of us have to work saturdays and this will mean sacrifice other events to do it

#31

dodge i think if myself lee bob dyer and a couple of other organisers got together we could do something between us i know your not in the midlands but if we kept a league in the midlands and the teams at 4 we would have endless venues to choose from and keep it with in 50 mlies of each other but i do think it would have to be on sundays as the climate we are living in now more and more of us have to work saturdays and this will mean sacrifice other events to do it

i think you are right joff, Paul Turner has been on about running an individual canal league for a while around the midlands, trouble is that there is alot of organising for one person. When you look at some leagues we fish and how poorly they are run and how much money is taken out, i think if some organisers got together and run a league where the venues were good and the money paid out instead of losing 50 to 60% of moneys paid in on admin then we could get some big leagues. Imagine a league with a match on loughborough,walsall,northhampton,wombourne,dams + locks,stafford and erewash? organisers making peg fees, good payouts

#32

I'd be up for it..

The only problem would be finding dates.

Over the last couple of years myself, Tony Keeling and Ted Yearby have arranged dates around one another...

Most Sundays from now until next March are already taken up with drennans, summer leagues, winter leagues...

Lloydy...i think if you have a standard peg fee of £2 then all should be happy.

joffmiester · #33

its a fine line but as loydy said if some of these matches are not getting the numbers as individual matches some will have to be sacrificed once something like this starts it can only get bigger each team that enters is another 4 anglers and then are committed for the series its easy to let match organisers down individually but not so in team matches of this size

#34

I'd be up for it..

The only problem would be finding dates.

Over the last couple of years myself, Tony Keeling and Ted Yearby have arranged dates around one another...

Most Sundays from now until next March are already taken up with drennans, summer leagues, winter leagues...

Lloydy...i think if you have a standard peg fee of £2 then all should be happy.

If you think what some places now charge peg fees, if you only charge £2 a peg think of the payouts you could have to draw lots of teams in. for 5 man teams you could pay £100 entry per team for 5 matches, which would be £50 peg fees and the rest towards final team money, then £15 or £20 pools on day all paid out. I'm also pretty sure you could get some mag coverage and possibley a bit of sponsorship if run correctly

#35

Nice one

sounds interesting

Dont know about the £20 pools tho

some of us have to travel a fair way and with the cost of fuel etc

£15 pools with sponsorship backing

Surely one of the big players (tackle firms, mag etc) would want to get involved with an event like this

joffmiester · #36

rome was not built in a day so i think this season is out but around christmas we should call a meeting

#37

I think its a brilliant idea but i think there would just be too many hurdles to overcome.

#38

I think its a brilliant idea but i think there would just be too many hurdles to overcome.

I think that there are hurdles and i think joff is right it would be next year, but i think its worth putting the feelers out and seriously considering it. We all come on these sites worrying whats happening to team fishing and the way it is run, there are some really good match organisers on this site that i think with help could do a superb job.