Simple Match Fishing Forum

reading alans article on lindholme lakes fishing for F1s [match fishing]i noticed he uses three back shots .for sometime now i've used two to three shot as back shot on my hemp rigs and found that it tangles more with shot than it does with styles i've even tryed using thicker line above the float this works well when using the wind for movement if you only use one big shot your in real trouble with tangles what do you think on this

Personaly i think alans rig with 3 back shot is over complicating things and asking for trouble with tangles etc..... i favour a single no10 shot 2ins above the float tip when bread/hemp fishing in blustery conditions joff

i know what your saying he is using about 18in from pole to float as for my hemp rigs i can have upto 3 to 5 foot of line it makes hell of a differents in presentation but of course i'm talking about rivers and canals my be not so much line on a canal rig

For F1s i sometimes use as little as 2 ins between float and pole tip.....where allowed of course

Been using three spread-out No12s above the float on canal rigs quite a bit the last few months and its worked well or me. Leadcore leaders also work unbelievably well on windy commercials. Got a little feature on them in next month's MF...

The pegs i draw i wouldnt even catch with Taypots rigs

On the Walsall cut in summer i use more shot above the float than below it!

Where i was watching the Winter league semi Lee Richmond (undoubtably match of the match) was using a back shop about 18 inches away from his float, for some reason it was painted orange.

This topic has preempted a few questions I was going to email to MF this week - provoked by the conditions and particularly after seeing you swing in fish on Sunday Chockie Munster.

You certainly seemed to be 'long lining' it from where I was, but correct me if I'm wrong

As well as
a) the length of line between float and tip in windy conditions, my questions were to include
b) the placing of the backshot,
c) size of shot in differing conditions,
d) whether there was a ratio relationship between the amount of backshot to that removed from below the float and
e)whether this differed if the shot was held above water level or not

TK...because i use braid and not a bung i tend to use top threes for all my canal fishing so use a long line. it also helps to speed things up and doesn't tangle easily.

One exception is when fishing under trees or very shallow water up rat holes.

orange back shot

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i've found a no.10 0r 11 about an inch from tip and a l0 below rig loop works and keeps the line from catching on pole tip in facing winds.also trying Alan's 3 shot at moment . have found the you can 'cheat' at pole dotting by moving an extra shot in water but seems to work in certain back winds or calm better,imo. however ,maybe on skimmers this could actually work against you on those iffy bites