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A contradiction in terms?

Posted: October 25th, 2008, 12:06 pm
by TK
Constantly hear that its best to feed a ‘dark’ groundbait on the cuts when the colour drops out of it as fish don’t like to ‘hover’ over a light one due to predators etc

Why do we then, and a generalised statement coming up, associate the supposed best punch fishing conditions are to be had in ‘clearer’ water conditions?

Also why is it when I walk up our cut which can run gin clear, that I spot fish nearby white objects on the bottom – plastic bags etc

A contradiction in terms?

Posted: October 25th, 2008, 1:06 pm
by me
surely its down to fish can see the lighter colours of the white punch, white plazy bag ect. For years people have used condenced milk as feed on gin clear waters as it explodes into a cloud but as zero feed content. Even on commercials this time of the year bright yellow corn comes into its own as its highly vizable and the fish dont have to hunt and dig about to find their feed like they would with a black or dark coloured corn.

A contradiction in terms?

Posted: October 25th, 2008, 2:09 pm
by Dodge
Constantly hear that its best to feed a ‘dark’ groundbait on the cuts when the colour drops out of it as fish don’t like to ‘hover’ over a light one due to predators etc

Why do we then, and a generalised statement coming up, associate the supposed best punch fishing conditions are to be had in ‘clearer’ water conditions?

Also why is it when I walk up our cut which can run gin clear, that I spot fish nearby white objects on the bottom – plastic bags etc


Good point TK ;) Image

I have wondered about this on numerous occasions !!! ......... the dark groundbaits usually have very little feed content in them which helps in difficult conditions but the predator thing i think is a load of man balls and possibly a marketing ploy Image

In clear water if there are predators in your swim more often than not there are plenty of silvers aswell ;)

A contradiction in terms?

Posted: October 31st, 2008, 9:22 pm
by MarkV
I think there are a lot of myths around fishing we take, some of us anyway, as 'truths'. One day we may find out, or maybe we won't, what is really the case.

I guess seeing fish hanging around white objects could be them being drawn to anything unsual. Acting like a feature.

I was told as a lad,like plenty of others, to use brown crumb rather than white because fish dont like to swim over white, but does it actually stand up as generally the case? So many imponderables in angling.

I'll stick with my anything unusual theory :o)

A contradiction in terms?

Posted: October 31st, 2008, 9:53 pm
by bill yards
The only thing I can add to this interesting debate comes from very deep waters in Ireland; assumedly the same will apply here.
All of us think at times we have put lots of groundbait in these type of swims, irrelevant of the colour of the stuff.
You could put somewhere around 50 lb of the stuff, say ten metres out in 16-20 feet of water. The groundbait would be a typical roach/bream mix, not like concrete.
It's amazing really but if you sent a diver down into your swim he would have one heck of a job to find the patch you had baited. We tried this in Ireland.
It virtually disappears with the undercurrents, rocks and by natural erosion and it doesn't take that long for it to happen either.

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