Cashmores Match 13 2010 - Hanchurch Model Canal

#41

till the next time somebody takes offence ta raa

i'lll take offence if you don't stop using that big zoom lense every time you get me

#42

No you don't, unless they're children or vulnerable adults or they thump you one

True Geoff

And I quote............

Is it legal to take photos of people without asking?

In public places where there is no right to privacy, yes you can. The same applies in private places where you have the permission of the landowner or the landowner has stated no restrictions on photography.

If someone does not want to be photographed it is best to respect their wishes unless there is an overriding reason not to. Most people in most circumstances respond well to friendly explanation, especially if you show them the photo. Nevertheless some will object that you have violated their rights in some interesting way, and it's best to have the explanations ready.

• 'You can't take my photo without permission'. Oh yes you can, usually. Point to the CCTV cameras and wave, they never asked either. Of course it is perfectly understandable that individuals may feel singled out and perhaps intimidated, frightened or angry not to be in control, but it's not a legal point.

• 'You have violated my copyright'. This is in no sense true. There is no copyright in the human face or form, and copying would anyway mean cloning them, not creating an image. An image of a person is copyright of the photographer.

• 'You have violated my privacy'. Legally this is unlikely to be true. There is no right to privacy in public places as a rule. There is a right to privacy in private places and in public places where there is a reasonable expectation of privacy (eg public toilets), but how extensive this is depends on circumstances.

• 'You have violated my human rights'. Police seem to sometimes object to being photographed on the grounds that their 'Human Rights' are being violated. This really means the same thing as 'privacy' and there is none in the street as the presence of CCTV and police photographers shows.
The Human Rights Act 1998 recognises a human right to expect privacy wherever privacy is normal, eg in the home. So photographs taken where privacy may be expected require permission of the subject. EG photographs taken from public places that depict someone within their home in a situation where they expect privacy, for instance through a window using a telephoto lens, will be actionable.

• 'You are harassing me'. Photography can indeed constitute harassment, but for an act to constitute harassment requires deliberate acts of harassment on at least 2 separate occasions. The complainant may then seek a restraining order from the court.

(The standard definition for harassment is unwanted conduct on the grounds of race, gender, sexual orientation, religion, disability or age which has the purpose or effect of either violating the claimant's dignity, or creating an intimidating, hostile, degrading, humiliating or offensive environment for them)

Whilst you can legally snap away Sprucey, from a personal perspective all I'd add is that if a Cashmores member objects, well so be it - if they dont want to enter into the spirit and camaraderie of what club fishing should be all about and want to allienate themselves in the process that's upto them - just don't let em ever moan in the future that their 'moment of glory' wasn't captured for prosperity, or they feel excluded etc etc ........

So sad - but doesnt surprise me...........

What's the point in posting all this ?

Thought that was obvious, but obviously not..........

To clarify the legality of the situation to any barrack room lawyers out there in the event of the situation or topic resurfacing............. and to reassure all the 'snappers' out there

#43

Great reports lads and most enjoyable photos as always Sprucey.

As one who has been known to take a photo or twenty I have to say I'm a little shocked and saddened that a situation such as described within this thread has transpired on what's supposed to be a friendly club match.

I must have taken hundreds over the course of the years at all levels of matches and days out on the bank. without exception I believe they've all been well recieved, even those that have had a little trip through the photoshop.

TK, thanks for posting that up with regards to photo's, it seems that you never know when you might need to refer to it.

Don't stop taking and posting the photos it gives the reader a real taste of the day when reading through the reports, especially if they're not familiar with the venue.