man utd

me · #1

FA cup = out
carling cup = out
champions league = out
europa league = out
Prem = behind spurs

Only a few hours to wait so i can type the same up about man city

#2

Bad night for 'English' teams in Europe tonight - needs a right comeback at 0 - 2 at half time........

MarkV · #3

Do you mean Man City TK ? man U game over.

I see the player with my all time favourite footballers name, brother of that Dutch Master angler Herbert van..., has scored for Sporting again ...

van Wolfswinkel

#4

Do you mean Man City TK

Yep MarkV - but now 1 - 2, Aquero has just pulled one back

#5

Prem = behind spurs

I'll have some of what you're on Si.

Just old red nose clearing the decks for a trouble free run in to the Premiership Title again I'm afraid. :(

#6

Do you mean Man City TK

Yep MarkV - but now 1 - 2, Aquero has just pulled one back

2 - 2 a Balotelli penalty

#7

Just old red nose clearing the decks for a trouble free run in to the Premiership Title again I'm afraid

Next two sets of fixtures will have a big say in things......

Wolves v MUFC
MU v Fulham

whilst

Man C v CFC
Stoke v Man C

Spurs v Stoke
CFC v Spurs

with Arsenal v Everton (away) then home to Villa

#8

Do you mean Man City TK

Yep MarkV - but now 1 - 2, Aquero has just pulled one back

2 - 2 a Balotelli penalty

Now 3 - 2 (Aquero again on 82 mins)

#9

Cant make my mind up whether City "chucked" that game tonight ? They were certainly "trying" at the end....... very embarrasing

#10

Just have to face facts.

When you look at these performances, where does that actually rate the Premiership?

England's best players, - at best are ordinary

#11

We all talk about Messi's five goals for Barca last week.

However, what about the team performance; aguably the best I have ever seen by some way.
Even 1966 which I well remember? ::) ::) ::)

trypewriter · #12

In essence Barca play a very simple game - they always play the easy pass - and there is always someone to receive it. You don't have to be world class to play that way - but it is a huge advantage if you are. Because they want to play the easy pass they play it very early, in contrast most players waste time by looking for other options and their passing is ponderous by comparison. When you watch them play they only really have one man who is allowed to run with the ball - Messi, although in the game where he scored 5 they were so dominant that Iniesta also started to take a dribble or two. But one of the key things is that they also prevent other teams from playing the same game by a ferocious work rate, closing down and hassling and harrying, forcing the opposition into mistakes. The nearest man to the player with the ball goes to him, they don't pass on the responsibility to someone else. This means they actually defend from the front. It's very simple, defenders don't tend to be the best ball players, so they are easier to force into mistakes or the default of a long hoof up the pitch. If you can get at them, Barca's comparative weakness is their defence, but they can cope with long hopeful punts up the pitch all day long. Of English clubs, Arsenal probably play the closest in style, but they don't close down the opposition as fast as Barca. Utd v Bilboa - if Bilboa had half decent strikers it would have been a cricket score!

grover · #13

english players are overated and overpaid imo, the prem aint the best league in the world.. the euros are, and last night you saw for yourselves!! i recall rooney threatening to leave utd a while back because of the lack of commitment from the club and team mates, but a wage rise put an end to that!! so what now rooney? have you got the balls to leave and take a wage cut for a champs or euro trophy? i doubt it m8!! its all about the money and not the winning with the prem! personally i dont give a dam about english footy, or the teams, euro is where its at, i'm looking forward to the next rounds.. where fantastic football and proper good players play the game with flair and skill.

joffmiester · #14

cancel football until we can start playing the passing game properly last night sums up how crap the premiership has been this season

joffmiester · #15

can't wait for the euro's LOL

we haven't a english goal scorer yet
at least the rugby players put 110% into the game roll on tomorrow

trypewriter · #16

You go back to Brian Clough, who had a big sign up saying 'the biggest crime in football is to give the ball away'. He was right. Short, easy passes are key, and to be honest any pro footballer should be capable of making them - what they can't make is the decision to play them. OK, some of those raking 60 yard passes look great, but they usually fail on two counts. First, the ball is in the air for a very long time, allowing the defence to get into position. Second, the guy receiving the ball has to bring it down and control it, and even with the best touch in the world it won't be as easy as a short pass to feet.
Barca obviously have a very, very good team, but it's their twelfth man, on the pitch perfectly legally, who does most of the running and is their key player. His name? Mr. BALL!

grover · #17

like it typie!! it just goes to show how much the english game has suffered by bringing all these foriginers in, its failed miserably imo, bring back the rule of three overseas players only!!! i just cant support a team with hardly any english players sorry guys but thats the way it is, we will also fail in the internationals!!

#18

We are all saying the same thing here; maybe in slightly different ways.

If Barca or Bilbao played England you would probably need a crib board to keep the score

#19

Stoke City know very well what a decent Europa League it is this season bill

quality sides like Bilbao and Valencia etc arent going for league titles (Barca & Madrid too good !) so throw all their resources at europe

Bilbao rely heavily on forward Lorente who is top top class , however Lorente is now injured and his understudy (little bald bloke) stats are shocking to say the least ....17 goals in 120 games !

still better than Torres though !

A distant trip to darkest Russia somewhere avoided by City in the quater finals

followed by Bilbao in the semis

Ps we cant even beat Swansea anyway !

#20

RE the Premier League

Spurs were supposedly "THE BEST THING" since sliced bread a fortnight ago ...... how thing have changed ! 3 straight defeats ( 2 hammerings) and now not even certain of champions league football. Football is all about ups and downs no matter how big / small , good or bad the team you follow is