Breaking the NHS

#1

What ever your political persuasion everyone should read this link

http://falseeconomy.org.uk/blog/breakin ... th-its-rec

Even more importantly 6 paragraphs down it reads 'This new report from SOS NHS puts the case for opposition to the bill and shows why the government’s policy will not only fail, but will be dangerously damaging to the nation’s health.

Click on the words 'This new report'..............

It's a bit of a lengthy document but I urge that you take the time to read it - if needs be 'save it' and digest it over a session or two - there's some startling information in it that all should be aware of

#2

Absolutely correct TK

The thing lots of people should ask themselves is why large sections of the "English" media support this corrupt government we have today ?

#3

And they were corrupt last time they were in power !

Cameron,s chief policy strategist has left number 10 today for a years unpaid sabatical ....... think that says volumes about this government !

#4

On Monday afternoon, the House of Lords starts the final voting on the NHS changes. An influential crossbench Lord, Lord David Owen, has agreed to deliver the Save Our NHS petition. He will carry it right into the House of Lords chamber, just before the debate starts.

The petition bears the names of over half a million of us. It speaks of our fears for the future of our NHS: services broken up, creeping privatisation, money diverted from patient care. These are the kind of risks which could be in the government's risk report. But the government still won't publish that report, despite legal orders to do so.

During Monday's debate, Lord Owen will call a vote blocking the NHS changes until the risk report is published. [1] Our petition will remind Lords that the public care about these risks to the future of our health service. It could persuade some wavering Lords to vote the right way.

It's quite a long shot, to be honest. The government seems determined to ignore everyone's concerns and force things through. But incredible things can happen even this late in the day – it's definitely worth a try.

You're one of the 500,000 names already on the petition. But the bigger it is, the more powerful our message to the Lords. So please can you forward this email to your friends, family and workmates, and ask them to sign by Monday morning?

https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/Save-our-NHS

As the Lords gather to decide whether or not to press on with changing the NHS without knowing all the risks, let's send them a reminder. Let's remind them that across the UK, hundreds of thousands of us know what it feels like to arrive at a hospital or a doctor’s surgery, tired, sick or frightened for someone you love. And that we know how much we rely on our NHS in those situations to give us the care we need.

Each name on our petition is a reason for the Lords to think twice before gambling with the future of our NHS. It will show them that although we all know the NHS isn't perfect, we know that it's pretty amazing. It will remind them that when we talk about risk registers, we're talking about threats to a health service which is the envy of the world.

This could be the final opportunity for your friends, workmates and family to stand up for the NHS before the key votes happen. So please can you forward this email and ask them to sign the petition?

https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/Save-our-NHS

MrV · #5

Wholeheartedly agree with this petition. I have just signed it

#6

I also forgot to mention that Nick Clegg is an wobbly cheeks lickin useless twat in my previous rant

#7

Well the bill has now been passed and the NHS is now effectively privatised !

#8

First phase of the road network privatisation coming up next........

Couple that with the now weekly rise in fuel prices on the forecourts soon have to start looking for venues within walking distance!!!!!!

#9

And still large sections of the "English" media (murdoch) support this coalition government and its policies !

Pigs in troughs the lot of them !

#10

Dont get me started Dodge..........

Decimation of............

The Coal Industry

The Steel Industry

Our manufacturing base

The sale of countries housing stock

The sale of the countries silverware - the gas, electricity industries into foreign ownership

Not to mention water

God I need a lie down before I explode

I'd better stop..........

#11

Contents of an email received from the 38 Degrees team.......

This isn't an easy email to write. It's bad news. After more than a year of controversy and debate, the government has got its NHS plans through Parliament.[1] Our petition was read out many times, and there were scores of MPs and Lords who gave a passionate defence of the NHS, but the votes were still lost.[2] It isn't the result any of us were hoping for.

They didn't totally get their own way. 38 Degrees members – along with doctors and nurses’ groups, medical charities and even some politicians – forced through changes and delays. But while there are glimmers of hope, it's still pretty grim. Most medical experts still warn that these changes will do horrible damage to our health service.[3]

We came close, and we gave it everything we had. A huge petition. Thousands of messages and phone calls to MPs and Lords. Hundreds of local events all across the UK. Money raised to hire in lawyers and run billboard and newspaper adverts.[4] No one can say that 38 Degrees members didn't try our best.

Now, in this moment of disappointment, we need to decide what we do next. Shall we carry on our work to protect the NHS? Do we want to keep working together to slow down the changes and reduce the damage to our health service? Or is it time to move on and focus on other issues?

If 38 Degrees members wanted to keep going, it’s likely we could come up with some good ideas for things we could do. Some doctors are even volunteering to stand for election as “Save the NHS” candidates![5]

Please take one moment to vote YES or NO – are you up for continuing to campaign to protect the NHS?
https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/NHS-vote

This is not the first time people power has had setbacks. Those of us who joined millions of others to march against the Iraq war may feel echoes today of another occasion when a different government decided to ignore public opinion. And sometimes it’s tempting to give up and disengage from politics altogether.

But 38 Degrees members have done so much to prove people power can work. To give just one example, this spring many of us will enjoy walking in the woodlands we stopped from being sold off.[6]

More than that, we’re part of a much bigger story of ordinary people standing up for what’s right, all through the ages. Votes for women, the minimum wage, the right to roam in our beautiful countryside. The creation of the NHS itself. Politicians often follow where people power leads.

There are now 1 million 38 Degrees members and we know we can be a force for good in this country. It’s not always easy, and there will be setbacks as well as moments of fantastic victory. But one thing’s for certain – if we keep working together things will turn out better than if we did nothing at all.

Please take 30 seconds to vote YES or NO on whether 38 Degrees should keep going with the campaign to protect the NHS:
https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/NHS-vote

Thank you for being part of it and everything you've done,

David, Marie, Hannah, Becky, Cian, James and the 38 Degrees team

PS: If most 38 Degrees members vote "yes", then we'll need to vote again soon, to choose options for future campaigning to protect the NHS. If most members vote "no", then the 38 Degrees office team will shift focus over to other issues voted for by 38 Degrees members. Have your say YES or NO here: https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/NHS-vote

PPS: If you want to read more about everything we've done together and what this all means for our health service, read all about it on the 38 Degrees' website.

fluke · #12

voted....

saw a slot on the news today of the angry mobs about this bill, politicians are a step below lawyers...

reminds me of the joke......what do you call a boat of 50 politicians on the bottom of the ocean..?.......

a good start.

delusional fatcats who have no clue about the real world with their 100k plus a year wages.

Copo · #13

Noticed even the Sun were turning against the Tories this morning.

Don't forget that fat pratt Gordon "The moron" Brown sold all of our gold for next to nothing

I hate all politicians with a passion, they are only in it for themselves and how many directorships they can get out of the role, just look at that grinning jack ass Tony Blair

and how much he gets for public speaking, and let's not start about his wife Pillar Box Gob

#14

Noticed even the Sun were turning against the Tories this morning.

Don't forget that fat pratt Gordon "The moron" Brown sold all of our gold for next to nothing

I hate all politicians with a passion, they are only in it for themselves and how many directorships they can get out of the role, just look at that grinning jack ass Tony Blair and how much he gets for public speaking, and let's not start about his wife Pillar Box Gob

Are Blair and Brown any worse than the lot who are in power today who are running the country just to serve the elite rich 1% ?

I dont think so !