Is this really 'angling'?

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http://www.talkangling.co.uk/upload/mat ... eight.html

#2

It was only an 8 pegger so they were pleasure fishing in my opinion

Rather catch 10lb of silvers any day ;)

me · #3

i agree with dodge. 8 people on any lake would see the lake fish like a pleasure session. They would of had how many spare pegs between each of them. I bet every one thought they were fishing an end peg

, plus they fished a 6 hr match not a 5hr.

Just another stupid southern water were they are crammed so full the fish are fighting to get out of the water for a breath of fresh air. Just look at the marsh sections matches. They only fish waters were you dont need to work to net a ton but just have to whistle

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#4

Echo some of both your sentiments, but to be brutally honest I think I'd get bored :(

I know I go to catch fish, but if I sacked up on that scale..........or had 'decent' bags every outing I'm sure I might just end up reaching for the golf clubs instead.

It's a 'challenge' I need - probably why I rarely 'pleasure' fish - my greatest satisfaction arises from having to 'work' for the fish, making decisions - right or wrong - recognising when I've fished 'tidy' and disecting the day afterwards and hopefully having learnt something for the next occasion from my mistakes

10lb silvers or 2lb gudgeon and I'm a (relatively) happy bunny

That's probably why the cuts - even in the depths of winter - are my first love

#5

I doubt that they were fishing the whole lake with loads of pegs in between them as you have to pay for ALL pegs you book. The lake has over 40 pegs and any not booked for matches are left for pleasure anglers, so I would presume the 8 of them were on only 8 or 10 pegs in line.
The fish seem to have grown a lot since I last fished a match there several years ago. I have never booked it for Marsh mainly as you have to weigh and return every fish over 5lb, not easy with one decent set of scales between 20 of you. Just having to do that makes the 600lb weight even more surprising.

They only fish waters were you dont need to work to net a ton but just have to whistle

You seem to have a vrey prejudiced view of southern waters Si, Catching a ton isnt as easy as you seem to think but is more achievable when catching decent size carp.

Question for you, What is the difference between catching 10lb of roach at 3 to the lb and 100lb of carp at 3lb average. Both involve catching 30 fish and to my mind the same level of skill is involved to hook them and possibly more skill and effort to land the carp especially when you connect to some of the better than average fish. After all a 6 oz roach doesnt pull your top kit into the depths does it TK.

Marsh AC do fish fairly prolific commercials as a lot of our anglers are not great anglers and dont fish that often and do like to catch decent fish when they go. Also rivers and canals around here are not easy to get access to easily. Dont look at our winning weights of 100lb plus which are usually achieved by 3 or 4 of our better anglers but look at the backing weights of 20 to 40 lbs which the majority get. They enjoy catching a few fish in good company which is surely what club fishing is all about.

Thank god for well stocked commercials.

By the way i also get a great deal of pleasure from catchin a few roach as i did in a charity match last year. 6lb of roach for 4th on the lake one of the most enjoyable sessions I had last year.

me · #6

Thank god for well stocked commercials.

you mean over stocked

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They only fish waters were you dont need to work to net a ton but just have to whistle

I think that was a baited size 14 in the top lip Davec

me · #8

think that was a baited size 14 in the top lip Davec

Tk it just shows how easy it is to get a bite from a southerner, a few more like that and the ton would be in the net

#9

Its OK TK Si would have missed the bite as usual after falling asleep waiting for 2 hours for a bite on an understock water up there.

#10

Even if he'd hooked it Dave, it would just have ripped the elastic out before spitting the hook and buggering off.

#11

Hi Davec

I think you may have possibly misinterpreted my thoughts on this subject as perhaps I did not clearly express them from the outset.

I do not decry or intend to belittle the ability and skills of anglers who focus their attentions on catching large nos/weights of carp. In fact I’ve every admiration for the prowess of anglers like the Ringers, Raison and others that regularly feature in high profile match reports as they possess capabilities I certainly do not have.

To be brutally honest and frank, whilst my large fish playing skills have certainly vastly improved over the last couple of seasons, despite the loss of a end section a match or two ago

, I fully recognise I’m miles behind the pace with the necessary feeding regimes or reactions required during a ‘carp’ match to enhance my catches. But there again it’s not often I get tanked off the adjoining pegs so perhaps I’m punishing myself unnecessarily if I’m constantly in an area devoid of life………..

Spose where I’m coming from is perhaps my fixation is that I don’t have a fixation about I must catch a monstrous weight………

They enjoy catching a few fish in good company which is surely what club fishing is all about.

Couldnt agree more

If the link report is true, and lets call it a match irrespective of the no fishing and supposing the average stamp of fish was 10lb then……..

600lb / 6 hrs = 100lb per hour
100lb / 10lb = 10 fish per hour = 1 every 6 mins in the net (or weighed in)

If average stamp is 5lb then obviously it’s a fish in the net every 3 mins

Where will anglers expectations level out? The ton or even double ton now seemingly appears to be old hat……………..

#12

I dont usually get involved in threads like this but something has seriously got me thinking about the stated 640 odd pound catch in 6 hrs ??
The guy has admitted to weighing in all his own fish (87 he had time to count them)

nearly all of which were over 5lb ( average 8-11lb) he claims weighed individually as rules state......during the "match" the same angler also took time out to weigh several of his mates fish aswell........he certainly has been busy in the stated "6hrs"
Cynical sod i may be ::) personaly i would of had to go to the pub after catching 400 lb

#13

Cynical sod i may be , personaly i would of had to go to the pub after catching 400 lb

You would have been well looked after Dodge as there are 3 pubs within 3 miles of the place.

I cant see myself how its possible to catch so much, especially as on average it is 4 minutes to hook, play, land ,unhook, weigh and rebait. But when you take into account that the catch rates tend to be slower at the start and most fish will be caught in the last 2 hours when it must be something like 3 minutes per fish which are averaging nearly 8lb a go. Its no wonder that most of the fish in the lake have damaged mouths and look really tatty.

me · #14

waiting for 2 hours for a bite on an understock water up there.

If its right what some southerner as told people, then its no wounder we've got low numbers of fish as he beleifs our carp up here are simular to black widow spiders and kill their parteners after they've spawned

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